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	<title>Comments on: How To: Hot Extend Virtual Disks Using ESX 3.5 Update 2</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.vm-aware.com/2008/07/how-to-hot-extend-virtual-disks-using-esx-35-update-2/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

We have a Linux environment on ESX 3.5 u2 so have been very keen to find a way to use the Hot Extend feature. I&#039;ve been searching the net for a while for a method but found nothing so yesterday I asked a VMware guru about doing this with Linux. He gave me the following response:

&quot;I don&#039;t know exactly what feature set we have in 3.5, especially in the
storage area. However, I would imagine extending disks requires
re-attaching to the storage layer in Linux, which means at least an
unmount and re-mount. Typically, Linux won&#039;t reprobe LUNs unless you
remove the driver module and re-install, so you would need a root FS on
a different storage type (Buslogic or IDE), and LSI Logic as a kernel
module.

Since dropping your entire non-root storage offline will take out any
active processes working on that (they must be stopped, or you can&#039;t
unmount, and thus can&#039;t remove the module), I would imagine this
hot-extend feature is not much better than a reboot, certainly not as
useful as PCI hot add/remove, which I believe we are adding in our
upcoming 4.0 release. With PCI hot add, a new controller can be
hotplugged, which truly allows you to add storage on demand with zero
downtime. I don&#039;t know if you can add LUNs on demand, it would be a
driver dependent issue&quot;.

So I think that gives me closure on the possibility... it&#039;s just not going to
happen with Linux, at least for the moment. 

Cheers,
Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>We have a Linux environment on ESX 3.5 u2 so have been very keen to find a way to use the Hot Extend feature. I&#8217;ve been searching the net for a while for a method but found nothing so yesterday I asked a VMware guru about doing this with Linux. He gave me the following response:</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know exactly what feature set we have in 3.5, especially in the<br />
storage area. However, I would imagine extending disks requires<br />
re-attaching to the storage layer in Linux, which means at least an<br />
unmount and re-mount. Typically, Linux won&#8217;t reprobe LUNs unless you<br />
remove the driver module and re-install, so you would need a root FS on<br />
a different storage type (Buslogic or IDE), and LSI Logic as a kernel<br />
module.</p>
<p>Since dropping your entire non-root storage offline will take out any<br />
active processes working on that (they must be stopped, or you can&#8217;t<br />
unmount, and thus can&#8217;t remove the module), I would imagine this<br />
hot-extend feature is not much better than a reboot, certainly not as<br />
useful as PCI hot add/remove, which I believe we are adding in our<br />
upcoming 4.0 release. With PCI hot add, a new controller can be<br />
hotplugged, which truly allows you to add storage on demand with zero<br />
downtime. I don&#8217;t know if you can add LUNs on demand, it would be a<br />
driver dependent issue&#8221;.</p>
<p>So I think that gives me closure on the possibility&#8230; it&#8217;s just not going to<br />
happen with Linux, at least for the moment. </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: Extending Boot Partitions &#124; VM-Aware</title>
		<link>http://www.vm-aware.com/2008/07/how-to-hot-extend-virtual-disks-using-esx-35-update-2/comment-page-1/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Extending Boot Partitions &#124; VM-Aware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more disks in the physical world or by extending the vmdk size in the virtual world (see this article for more information) it is a case of a single line in the command prompt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more disks in the physical world or by extending the vmdk size in the virtual world (see this article for more information) it is a case of a single line in the command prompt.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Shannon</title>
		<link>http://www.vm-aware.com/2008/07/how-to-hot-extend-virtual-disks-using-esx-35-update-2/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rick

You are right that the functionality of extending VMDK files has always been ESX for a long time and that a helper VM can even do a boot vmdk, but the point of the article was more to show point out the hot extend functionality.

This functionality was introduced with ESX 3.5 Update 2 and admittedly builds on existing functionality, but now allows this functionality to work whilst the VM is running.

Thanks for you comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rick</p>
<p>You are right that the functionality of extending VMDK files has always been ESX for a long time and that a helper VM can even do a boot vmdk, but the point of the article was more to show point out the hot extend functionality.</p>
<p>This functionality was introduced with ESX 3.5 Update 2 and admittedly builds on existing functionality, but now allows this functionality to work whilst the VM is running.</p>
<p>Thanks for you comment</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Scherer</title>
		<link>http://www.vm-aware.com/2008/07/how-to-hot-extend-virtual-disks-using-esx-35-update-2/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Scherer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This functionality has always been in ESX, from the CLI you can grow a VMDK then use partition managers to extend the partition.  It can even be done with boot volumes, simply mount the VMDK as a second disk on another VM.

ie: vmkfstools -X ## </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This functionality has always been in ESX, from the CLI you can grow a VMDK then use partition managers to extend the partition.  It can even be done with boot volumes, simply mount the VMDK as a second disk on another VM.</p>
<p>ie: vmkfstools -X ##</p>
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		<title>By: Virtualization Short Take #15 - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</title>
		<link>http://www.vm-aware.com/2008/07/how-to-hot-extend-virtual-disks-using-esx-35-update-2/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtualization Short Take #15 - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Shannon at VM-Aware has a PDF on how to hot extend virtual disks with Update 2. I personally had a problem reading the PDF; the pictures were there but there was no text. Even [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Shannon at VM-Aware has a PDF on how to hot extend virtual disks with Update 2. I personally had a problem reading the PDF; the pictures were there but there was no text. Even [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VMware: Hot Extend Virtual Disks Using ESX 3.5 Update 2 &#171; ICT-Freak</title>
		<link>http://www.vm-aware.com/2008/07/how-to-hot-extend-virtual-disks-using-esx-35-update-2/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>VMware: Hot Extend Virtual Disks Using ESX 3.5 Update 2 &#171; ICT-Freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pdf kun je hier downloaden: how-to-hot-extend-virtual-disks-using-esx-35-update-2        &#171; VMware: ESX 3.5 and VC 2.5 update 2 [...]</description>
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